firstname =lastname = (birth-death)ancester loss indicated byone * per lossvon Landenberg - Werdeggs Frauvon Frauenfeld (<1305-na)
Jakob, Rittervon Frauenfeld ((1270)-1315/16) 783 > 782,
Rudolf, Rittervon Wiesendangen (von Frauenfeld) (1255-1270) 782 >