firstname =lastname = (birth-death)ancester loss indicated byone * per lossJunghansCramer- Gürtler (1400 um-1463 nach)
HansCramer (1375 um-1439 nach) 1370 um wohl Saffran 8764 > 8763,
JohannCramer (1350 um-1408 nach) 1370 um Saffran 8763 > 8761,
UlrichCramer (1330 um-1376 nach) 8761 >