firstname =lastname = (birth-death)ancester loss indicated byone * per lossHans JakobHartmann- Breitinger/ Hafner (1575-1611)
JsaacHartmann- Grob (1543-1602) 1572 Meisen, 1586 Kämbel 9741 > 9736,
JakobHartmann- Kramer/ Schürmeyer/ Blutschli (1520 um-1570) 1560 Meisen 9736 >